rip van winkle I've had some natural experiences that were super...
I was just going to post the same comment, then I saw that you had read my mind.
Wow! That's spookey.
ok i know some of you are going to mock me but i don't give a shit and you'd better get dafaq outta this thread if you don't beleive in this stuff.. .
so,you ever seen somethin strange?shadow people?felt cold spots?touched by something you can't see?beaten by an unseen force?heard voices/whispers/growls/screams etc?are you sure about it or was it just your imagination?you ever been into the occult?c'mon share your experiences and stories!personally i've never had an encounter with the other side..
rip van winkle I've had some natural experiences that were super...
I was just going to post the same comment, then I saw that you had read my mind.
Wow! That's spookey.
dawkins: religion no moral compass.
by jason miks.
a number of readers noting your skepticism over religions role in society ask whether an absence of religion would leave us without a moral compass?.
That's sweet of you to be so honest. Hope all works out for you.
dawkins: religion no moral compass.
by jason miks.
a number of readers noting your skepticism over religions role in society ask whether an absence of religion would leave us without a moral compass?.
KateWild I am just more spiritual and caring of individuals than Dawkins is.
Having read Dawking's books and his track record of achievements, that have benefited so many people, I can not agree with your claim.
Dawkins has talent, whereas you have nothing more to offer than duplicity. You give the impression of enjoying attention more than reasoned debate.
dawkins: religion no moral compass.
by jason miks.
a number of readers noting your skepticism over religions role in society ask whether an absence of religion would leave us without a moral compass?.
Personaly, I find the debates by Dawking, or Richie as I call him, very useful. He sits on stage and debates with religious people. He holds them to account for every unfounded statement that is spoken as fact.
I hope he continues to stick his very British nose where it is not welcome.
dawkins: religion no moral compass.
by jason miks.
a number of readers noting your skepticism over religions role in society ask whether an absence of religion would leave us without a moral compass?.
I find the criticisms of R. Dawkins by some to be quite strange, he is a retired Academic and a writer, not the Messiah, even to Atheists.
Steady on there Phizzy
I am British, English actually - Dawkins is the messiah to me. He has done a great deal to enrich peoples lives and demonstrate the value of hard work and the application of knowledge.
He is adamant that the world would be better of without religion because it distorts reality. The more we are in touch with reality, the greater our chances of success in life; unless one happens to be the Pope, for god's sake.
why can't i say something without someone immature trying to be a smart ass or trying to fight everything i say and use it against me?
comments welcome.
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Brother Mike, hostility is part of life. Just take a look at the old-testament - or Hebrew scriptures if you prefer. The most hostile character is called Jehovah. He makes the Devil look cuddly.
Fortunately I don’t believe such an invisible monster ever existed. If you are worried about Armageddon - don’t be. If there is an Armageddon it will be man’s doing. Please don’t let invisible bogey men keep you awake at night or cause you to waste your life in a discredited organization such as the Watchtower Society. You are worth more than that.
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
Ave Caesar , morituri te salutant.
Hail Caesar, those about to die salute you.
i enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
mrhhome Please tell me what you are on - I want some!
i've spent the last few years examining my core beliefs to test what still stands.
i've let go of an inviolate bible, demoted jesus to a failed prophet, and god as unable to act against injustice.
our universe made itself.
jgnat I don't think the pastor is attributed superior spirituality…
It is true that more modern church-goers view the vicar, or pastor, as just another congregation member. Some churches in England are more traditional and the vicar is elevated to a higher status. The vicar I know has a ceremonial robe. When we part company after sharing a beverage, he always insists on fumbling with my hand and bestowing a blessing. He means well so I don't cause a fuss - bless him.
i've spent the last few years examining my core beliefs to test what still stands.
i've let go of an inviolate bible, demoted jesus to a failed prophet, and god as unable to act against injustice.
our universe made itself.
Yours is a well thought out and uplifting post. I have some sympathy with your view of the social service that many churches provide. Although an atheist, I have visited many Italian churches and also UK churches as I live in southern England.
What sometimes concerns me, is that vicars earn a living claiming to have a special relationship with someone that I can find no evidence of existing. In any other profession it would be considered fraud, but for the fact that many people, often in high positions, do believe in God.
It’s not my business, so it doesn’t keep me awake at night. I even have a friend who is a vicar and we often share a drink or two.